1.13.23

 

Here are three 1.13.23 knives with the backpacker icons embossed and they are from three different time periods.

The number one knife got the short key chain ring and it got a different shade on the red scales. This is not possible to see on the picture or maybe just some. The scales are red.

 

These knives got the special flat Phillips tool and this has caused some problems to date. When Wenger first introduced this I do not know yet.  The number 1 knife I have put to 1980 on the time frame.

The number 2 is almost the same with similar icon but longer key chain ring. Usually on my knives it seems the short key ring was used also later on but the long one was not used earlier on. It is uncertain to use this for dating a knife, it only give a hint.

There are a few small differences so I have put it in 1984.

The number 3 knife got more differences with a larger embossed icon and the locking flat screwdriver (1982-1984) + some more. I have put it in late 80s, maybe 1989.

All of the knives got the short can opener and old spring construction.

 

The knives with embossed icons are fun to collect and many like them. They got a reasonable cost and variations in them. I would expect that there are many more models out there than we know so far.

the early icons are smaller

On the number 3 knife to the right you can see the larger embossed icon. Wenger did use the embossed icons from 1977 and during the 1980s. Maybe some models had the embossed icons in the early 1990s. The Delemont factory used or started to use the pad print in the late 1980s.

When the first emboosed icon in the scales was used i am not sure on, could be 1976 or more early.

 

I can recommend collecting the 85mm with the icons!

all got the toothpick and tweezer in the scales.

 

Good luck!

Update

 

The 1.13.23 was sold in Norway under the name Speider (Scout)

Here are two models with Pad Print icons and they are also from different time periods.

To the left is a knife that I have so far put into 1990 and it got the long can opener. The spring system is the older style so this shows that the long can opener and new spring system are from different times. The new spring system I have put into the early 1990s.

The knife on the right got the new saw and long can opener with new spring system and this knife I have put into 1995-1998. The new saw is probably part of a change that did start to happen around the early 1990s. The knife got a few other details that I would put into 1995-1998.

It is so with Wenger that they got very many variations and it is a company that got early inventions. It is not rare that you can find smaller changes and variations on many knives. They are fun to collect and they give a challenge. The Wenger knives would be a nightmare to copy and I doubt it even would be possible to do so.

Both got the short chain.

 

New spring system.

 

1.13.23

Wenger 85mm with Backpacker icons

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17.08 | 12:09

Hi, yes very good system. Best for larger knives.

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17.08 | 11:52

Lansky clamping system Good

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12.08 | 19:25

Thank you very much

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Great! I have spent hours reading your comments. You are the Sage on the stage!

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